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Logitech Materializes Project Rigel

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Microsoft continues to improve the Skype for Business video experience. Recent updates include the launch of the Surface Hub, broadcast and translation services, international POPs for conferencing, the upcoming ability for multinational organizations to keep meetings regionalized, and now a new lower cost room system.

We got a glimpse of “Project Rigel” during Zig’s keynote at Enterprise Connect last March. The solution now known as the next generation of Skype Room Systems (SRS). The solution is an evolution of the Lync Room System (LRS) announced in 2013. The LRS system utilized touch-screen display(s) that served as both a display panel and white board. A Lync client ran on an embedded Windows device that also used a separate smaller touch-screen for control.  The primary OEMs were Smart Technologies and Crestron.

The next generation of SRS is very similar, but utilizes lower-cost non-touch displays controlled by a computer running a special version of Windows 10. The large electronic white-board is effectively traded for a lower cost solution. The smaller touch-screen control survives.

Logitech will be the first to market with an SRS solution with its SmartDock for Skype for Business.  Logitech Smartdock for SfB

The complete solution involves the following components:

  • A Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (SP4) PC is the brains of the solution. Microsoft developed a special SfB application for the Surface Pro 4 (SP4) which provides a kiosk-like operation for a conference room.
  • SRS software from Microsoft available for download.
  • The SP4 sits within the Logitech SmartDock that holds, connects, powers, and secures the PC.
  • Separate devices will be required for audio and video. Logitech recommends its own ConferenceCam Group product, but other USB peripherals are supported.

The Logitech SmartDock is intended to sit on the tabletop and provides the following functions:

  • HDMI to the monitor(s)
  • HDMI input to project or share video
  • A wired Ethernet connection for the SP4 (note the SP4 does not have a native Ethernet port)
  • Power to the SP4
  • Swivel base
  • Capabilities for secure mounting or locking
  • Three additional USB ports to the SP4 for A/V peripherals
  • Optional expander box for cable management and additional ports.

Logitech offers an expander box to assist with cable management. This allows a single 5 meter cable between the dock and the box which then breaks out the separate ports for the other devices.

It’s positioned as a native SfB video room experience that should be intuitive for users to operate. The touch-display will show scheduled meetings and provide one-touch meeting starts. It’s an alternative primarily against:

  • A user’s own laptop connected to A/V peripherals
  • Third-party room systems from other vendors such as Polycom or Cisco
  • The Surface Hub

Microsoft believes the solution will start around $2k – that’s a bit low.  Figure a $5k starting price for a complete solution that includes the control equipment, HD display, A/V peripherals, and installation. SRS provides a reasonably intuitive interface that most will find easy – even obvious – to use.

What’s not covered in the sales pitch:

  • The distribution model is a bit complex. Logitech provides the SmartDock (and A/V accessories) and Microsoft provides the software and SP4. For some reason these vendors don’t think the customer will be able to assemble this on their own, so they are attempting to restrict distribution to authorized partners. What’s particularly odd about this is the software and SP4 are the complex part, and they are available through mass distribution. It’s the dock which is restricted. I’m all for VARs adding value, but there’s just not a lot of value to add here. I suspect all the parts will be available at dotcoms regardless of intent.
  • Although this uses a standard SP4, it should be viewed as an appliance. The Microsoft load of software on the SP4 is not suitable for third-party applications such as Webex or Citrix.
  • Cables: Because SRS is intended for table-top use, there’s going to be some cabling. The Logitech Smartdock expander box helps, but keep in mind there’s a lot of I/O going to/from the SP4 (camera, power, speaker(s), and microphone(s), and optional video input).
  • LifeSpan: The Smardock is made the for the SP4 which is already about a year old. Will the SP5 be the same form factor? Also note there is no USB-C port. New laptops are moving away from HDMI to USB-C, thus an adapter will be needed for screen sharing. Also, newer 4K video cameras will use USB-C soon.
  • Power Supply. The distribution model involves separately sourced SmartDock and SP4. Both components come with power supplies, but only one is needed. Microsoft sells the SP4 power supplies separately for $80.

Competitive UC systems use a similar approach. The key difference is the Logitech ConferenceCam solutions are often used with a BYO PC instead of fixed appliance environment. Several vendors use Intel NUC-based designs for an appliance-like controller, but these don’t have an integrated touch-screen. Cisco’s approach with Spark uses in- room hardware and the user’s smartphone as the controller.

Additional SRS options are coming from Crestron and Polycom. The Logitech SmartDock will be the first solution generally available. The Crestron will be integrated into its other product lines, and Polycom will leverage existing hardware early next year.


** Clarification Sept 29 **

The solution was thought to be an application on a Windows-10 SP4. The actual solution involves a custom version of Windows 10.


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  • James Frost

    “Competitive UC systems use a similar approach. ” How exactly? I see this as being the complete opposite of Cisco’s approach.

    • Good question. Let me clarify. I meant that many vendors are using a PC as an appliance model. Most use a NUC – often running Linux using connected USB peripherals. Microsoft uniquely combines the controller with the PC with the SP4. Zoom, for example, uses a separate iPad for the controller. The advantage lies in consistent experiences and an all-in-one design – the disadvantage is all wires go to the table-top. Cisco is using the smartphone app as the controller which adds the benefit of a personalized experience, but requires that the user brings (and has) a smartphone.

      • James Frost

        Just a note that the Logitech SRS supposedly offers a break-out extender box which would live behind the screen and feeds the display, camera etc,. It connects to the table box via a single proprietary cable. The extension is limited to 5m, after which there is a 3rd party extender solution available.

  • mjgraves

    Have you ever noticed that the people they put into the mockups of such installations don’t appear anything like how they would look in real life. The real camera perspective is never as good as the mockup.

    There’s a lot of cable involved in the Logitech solution. It could be ugly/awkward. Whoever delivers a wireless implementation is likely going to see more traction.

    Also, the DIN connectors they use on the camera and conference phone seem to be prone to wear in the long term.

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